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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.06.11 09:29:56 -
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DARK SYCOPATA wrote:This nex pach just break this historial rule. all the nerf in this pach just is to manipulate the economy, incresin prices, decreasing global isk incoming and a no real money based injection of PLEX, is the end of the social experiment?
PD: i solt my plex and freeze my inversi+Śns until CCP stop this intervention in the Economy why sems no longer offert demand in the rule.
CCP have always controlled the amount of cash created via bounties ect and the like and the amount of cash destroyed by isk sinks.
When one is out of balance with the other it causes problems in the economy.
The biggest problem with the patch on Tuesday however is the constant whining from those who have been given boosts time and time again and now feel the sting of a nerf to their cash supply, like so much of the game has in the last decade.
The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.
After all we are not just players, we are customers.
Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.06.11 11:25:35 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:The biggest problem with the patch on Tuesday however is the constant whining from those who have been given boosts time and time again and now feel the sting of a nerf to their cash supply, like so much of the game has in the last decade. I don't think you quite understand what the whining has been about. It isn't about having income nerfed. It's about nerfing pvp in order to balance pve. Nerf the PVE all they like. Implement some fighter dampeners in anomolies making Carriers less viable for ratting. Most of the 'whiners' are in favour of CCP making changes. Just not in favour of CCP nerfing the life out of conflict in the process.
Yes some of the whining is about the reduction to PvP capability.
However most of the pointless dummy spits are over the fact the spoiled child of CCP (null sec) has been given a kick in the pants.
After years of ruination of the ability for any other area of the game to make a comparable income in favor of the spoiled child. The spoiled child just got a kick in the butt. Frankly from the other side of the fence it is as funny as hell to laugh at all those who have told others to adapt or die, or harden up to now be in the same boat.
If they had blocked carriers from being able to do anomalies and try to bring the massive amount of isk pouring in to a trickle, the whining would be the same.
The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.
After all we are not just players, we are customers.
Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.06.11 12:12:54 -
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DARK SYCOPATA wrote:What kind of game Balance is the creation of PLEX from the drone event? Sems some people is blind. The whole pach is just a desesperate movement to stop plex price.
There are only a limited number of ways to lower the price of PLEX one is to lower the supply of cash. The more cash that enters the economy the less buying power it has.
They could also get more people to use RL cash to buy PLEX but CCP has done its hardest over the years to drive these people off. That is why PLEX went from $300 mill to $1.3 bill.
The amount of PLEX that enters the market from this event will be little more than a blip on the market as it is in CCPs best interest for the price to remain high as it means people are more likely to use RL cash to buy them.
The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.
After all we are not just players, we are customers.
Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.06.11 12:55:13 -
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Coralas wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:DARK SYCOPATA wrote:What kind of game Balance is the creation of PLEX from the drone event? Sems some people is blind. The whole pach is just a desesperate movement to stop plex price. There are only a limited number of ways to lower the price of PLEX one is to lower the supply of cash. The more cash that enters the economy the less buying power it has. They could also get more people to use RL cash to buy PLEX but CCP has done its hardest over the years to drive these people off. That is why PLEX went from $300 mill to $1.3 bill. The amount of PLEX that enters the market from this event will be little more than a blip on the market as it is in CCPs best interest for the price to remain high as it means people are more likely to use RL cash to buy them. Plex has a negative feedback if it gets too high, in that ingame outcomes can be achieved with the equivalent of 1 old plex, rather than 2 or 3. ie many years ago, 4 plexes were required for a fitted vindicator, where as now 500 nuplex (at the same price as one old plex) gets you a couple of fitted vindicators.
It is not really negative feedback.
It is just supply and demand. Plex reaches a point where people choose to part with RL cash and people in game are willing to work to use in game currency to buy it.
The market equilibrium, where the higher the price the more likely people will fork out RL cash and the lower the price the more likely people are to buy it with in game currency is balanced. The unfortunate thing is that compared to years ago, the number of people with RL cash they are willing to spend is smaller compared to those with time to grind.
What it can buy in the game is irrelevant, especially as someone who is inexperienced who buys something flashy will watch it explode and then need more RL cash.
The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.
After all we are not just players, we are customers.
Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
199
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Posted - 2017.06.12 13:55:24 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:I just think that carriers did not need another nerf overall, but only in those anomalies. That would be perfect way of dealing with this situation. Sure, punish everyone for something caused by a very specific minority using something (fighter squadrons) that weren't' well thought out. Sorry, no. N+1 is a b*tch. "Mkay, let's balance fighter squadrons for the assumption of N+1 bored PvErs running anomalies N+1 hours a day, with N being anything between the current number and 1000% of it..."
The pure fact we are even discussing people running anomalies in carriers, shows how far out of whack Null space has become.
It is frankly a joke that Sov Null is now so safe that bounty prizes can be so distorted by a tiny percentage of the player base in Null.
A sickness crept into this game between ex-Null sec developers, Null sec CSMs and Null sec bitching. Now the game is warped to the point where Sov Null has become the safest most profitable option.
We need a surgeon to cut out this cancer.
The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.
After all we are not just players, we are customers.
Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
199
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Posted - 2017.06.12 14:10:24 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:
The pure fact we are even discussing people running anomalies in carriers, shows how far out of whack Null space has become.
No, just shows that you don't know much about null. People have been running anoms with Carriers for years. The problem is simply the introduction of Fighter Squadrons, which CCP introduced without thinking about or understanding that what is effective for PVP can be overpowered for PVE.
No actually as little as 5 years ago if someone had suggested offering a big fat defenseless carrier ratting all by its lonesome in sov null, someone in your leadership would have lost their nut.
Now Null has gone to pathetically safe and you consider big fat targets by them self as just a normal occurrence.
The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.
After all we are not just players, we are customers.
Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
199
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Posted - 2017.06.12 14:25:38 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:
The pure fact we are even discussing people running anomalies in carriers, shows how far out of whack Null space has become.
No, just shows that you don't know much about null. People have been running anoms with Carriers for years. The problem is simply the introduction of Fighter Squadrons, which CCP introduced without thinking about or understanding that what is effective for PVP can be overpowered for PVE. No actually as little as 5 years ago if someone had suggested offering a big fat defenseless carrier ratting all by its lonesome in sov null, someone in your leadership would have lost their nut. Now Null has gone to pathetically safe and you consider big fat targets by them self as just a normal occurrence. My leadership? WTF are you talking about? I lost my 1st ever carrier ratting in 2012 ( A Chimera on Cassius Rex) and no on said anything to me. I was never in a group that banned carrier ratting. Some people were. Do you mean that you are so prejudiced against nullsec that you don't understand that null is a collection of individuals in different groups not one big 'hive mind' kind of thing?
Actually I said your leadership, primarily because I don't actually care what group of spoiled brats you belong too.
Null has become a joke at the center of this game, the pure fact that 2 Null regions can gain bounties almost equal to the rest of the entire game show just how bad the problem has become.
The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.
After all we are not just players, we are customers.
Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.06.12 16:32:08 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:It is frankly a joke that Sov Null is now so safe that bounty prizes can be so distorted by a tiny percentage of the player base in Null.
A sickness crept into this game between ex-Null sec developers, Null sec CSMs and Null sec bitching. Now the game is warped to the point where Sov Null has become the safest most profitable option.
We need a surgeon to cut out this cancer. Why shouldn't Sov Null be the *safest option* when being said *safest option* requires co-ordination and co-operation of hundreds of pilots? *Part* of the problem is actually Jump Fatigue. With fatigue mechanics, it's very safe to use a super or carrier for ratting (or Rorq for mining) so long as you're confident that no-one is in range to come whomp you and that if someone does come, you have an alliance to back you up and try to save your ISK Printer. The bulk of the tears and rage aren't so much about PvE, they're about the nerf to the PvP capabilities of carriers. If CCP wants to nerf their PvE ISK Printing ability, then target changes at THAT one problem, not just a lazy, blanket nerf. It'll be interesting to see what the actual changes will be.
Yes but the problem is that CCP has made that Safest option, a very valuable option as well.
The fact that you can have a large standing army and the income to comfortably support them is what has killed Null.
There is no competition for scare resources that drive conflict. CCP has given to much and needs to massively reduce the income streams in Null.
The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.
After all we are not just players, we are customers.
Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2017.06.14 08:04:31 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:DARK SYCOPATA wrote:This nex pach just break this historial rule. all the nerf in this pach just is to manipulate the economy, incresin prices, decreasing global isk incoming and a no real money based injection of PLEX, is the end of the social experiment?
PD: i solt my plex and freeze my inversi+Śns until CCP stop this intervention in the Economy why sems no longer offert demand in the rule. CCP have always controlled the amount of cash created via bounties ect and the like and the amount of cash destroyed by isk sinks. When one is out of balance with the other it causes problems in the economy. The biggest problem with the patch on Tuesday however is the constant whining from those who have been given boosts time and time again and now feel the sting of a nerf to their cash supply, like so much of the game has in the last decade. You missed the parts about how decreasing the growth rate of ISK in the game is going to actually raise prices..... 
Yes but you could be telling people that their Carriers and Super Carriers are a sunk cost 
The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.
After all we are not just players, we are customers.
Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
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